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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

The unsettling part isn’t that bishops argued about theology. Christians had been doing that since roughly five minutes after Pentecost. It’s that once the empire joined the discussion, “you’re wrong” could become “burn the books, exile the teacher, punish the dissenter.” Nicaea didn’t invent the Trinity. It helped normalize something far more dangerous: letting the state decide which theology gets police powers.

Alan R Palmiter's avatar

Tanner,

This is scholarship of the highest order - masquerading as readable, accessible, fluid text.

Isn't the problem that in a patriarchal society - in which the patriarchs are doubling down on their power and control - that when some one speaks of Son, the obvious question is what sort of Son in the eyes of the Father. The preferred? A bastard? A chip off the old block?

And once you figure out the Son's status, the obvious question is: who was the Grandfather? What lineage are we talking about? What House does this Father-Son come from? As youve pointed out before, this Mediterranean mono-theism is of recent vintage

A friend who won national "Bible knowledge" competitions once said he could not figure out the Holy Spirit thing.

But maybe you've got it. It's a veiled acknowledgment that there is some God, some Force, beyond Father/Son. That's deep in human culture and myth. As Joseph Campbell might say, "it's in our bodies, our beings."

Now, if your religion is going to graft it's monotheism from the Greeks - Deus is Zeus - you gotta have some reference to the Grandfather. Maybe there's not a triangular Trinity, but a linear Trinity.

And then you ask for a suspension of thought (that is, no further analysis, please) by bringing in a blunderbuss criminal edict. Death to anyone who asks further. The power to sanction in the face of vagueness is a giveaway that there's ultimate power.

Take care

Alan

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